Suspect is an investigative series about mislaid justice and the kinds of weighty decisions that detectives, lawyers, and jurors make every day - decisions that, once made, are almost impossible to reverse.
Season 3: Five Shots in the Dark follows Leon Benson, who spent 24 years in an Indiana state prison for the 1998 murder of a young man named Kasey Schoen. His conviction hinged on the testimony of two eyewitnesses – but what if their memories turned out to be wrong? And what if the people who knew what really happened had never been allowed to speak? Suspect Season 3: Five Shots in the Dark is the story of two victims: one murdered, one sentenced to life. Follow host Matt Shaer and attorney Lara Bazelon as they investigate how the justice system failed both Leon and Kasey, and who the real killer might be. Join this unprecedented look inside the attempt to overturn a wrongful conviction and find out if justice will finally be served.
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Like that. Do you feel like that allowed you to kind of remember why you started in music in the fur like, did it give you a new life in that sense, or was just to sort of you had kept it up, and this was just a new stage of evolution for you. I kept it up. It was a new stage of evolution. So, like, The reason why, like, you would get some of my songs that's still relevant, even though I wrote them, like, 20 years ago, is because They were real. They were my songs. They get me through solitary. Like I would say, my philosophy of freedom is believing in yourself. When you are by yourself and none of your guys left, my philosophy of freedom means going against the grain no matter the obstacles in your way or pain, my philosophy of freedom, when they're wrong and you write, be prepared to go to war with their ass all night. My philosophy of freedom, right, So I'm saying this to myself because I'm feeling a breakdown. So I need me, a him, And that's what they became for me. They became tools of healing, tools of motivation for myself. And you know, I was able, especially on solitary, when I was able, the other inmates could hear you over the range on, like, a twelve cell pot. You know, we can talk through the doors. We can't see each other. I hold a concert keeping them. They're like, man, thank you, man. So you're getting feedback for doing it, but you're not producing all the way. So I'll write that song. That's what that was. It felt good. It was pretty much the same thing until 2014 for me where it piddled in correctional, the prison I was at, they had, like, chapel to have music equipment, and they allowed us to perform. Right? Did you record it, or was it just performing and, like, being able to
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